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Family Photos… When It Rains, It Pours

Kind of an unprecedented day today in terms of family photos.  Three cousins simultaneously sent me photos today, so I thought I’d just throw them all up here with some brief notes.

The first batch is from John Burrell, who is the son of my grand-aunt Elizabeth “Betty” Forrest.  It’s a photo of John Prescott “Red” Forrest (1923 – 2004) and his mother, Lulu Cairns Coutermarsh (1888 – 1975), which looks like it was taken about 1974, shortly before Lulu’s death:

John Forrest and Lulu Cairns

The next one is my grandfather Fred Thomas Jr (1918-2006) with his sister-in-law, Betty Forrest Marshall.  It looks like John Burrell in her lap, and my father and his two brothers Dick and Dave on my grandfather’s lap.  Probably taken about 1949:

Thomas and Marshall families.

Next is a photo of my grandfather, Fred Thomas Jr. that was sent to me by Tom Forrest.  Looks like it was taken about 1947.  He’s holding a sapling:

Fred Thomas and Sapling

The rest of these were sent to me by Martha “Marti” McDonald Benz, who is the daughter of Grace Thomas, my father’s “Aunt Grace”.  I called Marti out of the blue and she was just amazingly kind to me and very interested in the family history work I’ve been doing.  I’m so glad we connected!

The first photo is of Anna Clifford (1851-1929), which is from a pair of photos with her and her husband Horace Luther Thomas (my 2x great grandfather).

Anna Clifford, about 1910.

The next is of Anna Thomas (1876-1971), her daughter, who later married William McBride.  Anna and her husband Bill took in Aunt Grace after the death of their mother in the 1918 Spanish Influenza epidemic:

Anna Thomas McBride

Here is Anna and her husband William McBride much later in life.  Probably taken in the mid-1940s:

Anna and William McBride

Finally, here is a picture of Grace Thomas (1916-1999) herself on her wedding day, 11 June 1941.  Grace was the sister of my grandfather, Frederick Thomas Jr.  She married James McDonald (1914-1982).  I’ve been meaning to write more about her, but haven’t managed to get around to it yet.

The photo was taken in front of the family home at 186 Summit Street in Burlington, Vermont.

Grace Thomas McDonald, Wedding Day.

Cairns Vital Records from Quebec

The photograph of Lulu Cairns and her sister Mildred made me look more at them in the family tree. I realized that I had accidentally overlooked a baptism document from the American Presbyterian Church in Montreal, Quebec, Canada when Mildred and Lulu were baptized in April of 1912.  Lulu was 24 and Mildred was 20.  This is a great document because Lulu, Mildred and Samuel all signed it:

But it got me thinking.  I had an anecdotal note on my tree that Lulu and Midred’s mother Helen Nason may have died in 1912.  I could envision either that the girls were baptized in conjunction with her funeral or that Helen died and Samuel could finally get his wish and have his girls baptized (assuming Helen might have been a different religion).  So I went looking in the same book for a burial record for Helen.  At first I didn’t find it, but it was in the index in the back and I was able to locate it.  She died about 20 days after the girls were baptized, so I’m thinking that they went in and got baptized as part of some process of the family getting ready for Helen to pass when she was very ill.  The burial record is interesting because it gives the place where the family was living (Westmount, Quebec, Candada) and also says that Samuel was working as an “Inspector”.  The record says Helen was 49, but she was 48 according to my records.  The place of Helen’s burial is also given (Ormstown, Quebec, Candada).  Ormstown was where the Webb and Cairns families lived for many years.

The J.A. Webb who signed as a witness I’m guessing is a cousin of Samuel Cairns.  His mother was Sarah Webb, so I’m guessing this is a son of his mother’s brother William Webb.

At the end of this same book is the marriage record for Lulu marrying my great-grandfather John Prescott “Jack” Forrest on December 4, 1912.  Busy year for the Cairns Family!  Note that they describe my 24-year-old great-grandmother as a “spinster”.

More Cairns Photos

More jaw-dropping photos from Tom Forrest tonight. The first is my great-great-grandfather Samuel Robert Cairns (1865-1941) taken about 1890. What a dapper young man!

The next is a photo of his two girls: my great-grandmother Lulu Maria Cairns (1888-1975, left) and her sister Mildred Nason Cairns (1891-1961, right) taken about 1897.  They are both like little dolls.  I love this photo, and it totally took my breath away when I first saw it.

Email From Tom Forrest

I got an email tonight out of the blue from Tom Forrest.  He lives in Danbury, Connecticut, and is the grandson of my grandmother Mildred Jean Forrest Thomas’s younger brother John Prescott Forrest (1923-2004).  He sent me a short email saying he’d gotten a message from me on Ancestry.com.  He asked how my dad was doing and whether or not I remembered my great-grandmother Lulu Cairns Forrest.  I don’t.  Although I visited Vermont (where my father’s family lived) when I was very young, I only remember visiting there twice.  Once when I was about 11 and once when I was about 13.  Although they were very memorable trips in many ways, I don’t recall meeting any of my father’s family apart from his parents, his brothers, and their kids.  If I ever met Lulu or any of my grandmother’s sisters I don’t remember it.

Tom also enclosed some fantastic photos of the Forrest family and one of my dad’s family.  I’m really looking forward to talking to him and getting additional pieces of information about the Forrests.

Fred Thomas III, Dave Thomas, Fred Thomas Jr., Mildred Jean Forrest Thomas, and Dick Thomas. My father and his family about 1959.

Recollections of Lulu Maria Cairns (Forrest Whitney Bailey Coutermarsh)

Lulu Cairns (1888-1975) was my father’s beloved grandmother.  She was born in Bedford, Quebec, Canada to Samuel Robert Cairns (1825-1891) and Helen Maria Nason (1863-1912).

Samuel, Lulu, Mildred & Helen Cairns (clockwise from top), c1906

Samuel, Lulu, Mildred & Helen Cairns (clockwise from top), c1906

She married my great-grandfather John Prescott “Jack” Forrest (1884-??) in 1912 when she was 24 years old.  He was the first of her four husbands.  They had three girls [Mildred Jean, Helen Duff, Elizabeth Cairns] and a boy [John Prescott Jr.].  As my father will explain below, family legend says that Lulu ran around with other men, which drove her husband to drink.  She then divorced him for drinking.  I suspect that is only partly true since several Forrest family members of that generation had alcohol problems.  There are also rumors of my grandfather John having gambling issues.  As far as anyone knows, once he left the family (sometime between 1923 and 1930), nobody heard from him again.  In fact, we have no idea where he died or when.  I only know it was after 1942.

John & Lulu Forrest with daughters Helen and Mlidred and an unknown blonde friend, c1920.

John & Lulu Forrest with daughters Helen and Mildred Jean and an unknown blonde friend (center). c1920.

Lulu was quite a character, but by all accounts an incredible grandmother.  “Just… the best grandmother a boy could ever want”, according to my father.

I’m sure this will be only the first of many entries about Lulu, but I wanted to get this part down while I was thinking about my father’s stories.  Here he is talking about his grandmother, Lulu:

Lulu was married four times.  Her first husband was John Forrest, who became some kind of high executive in the Remington Rand Corporation.  He came from a prestigious academic family from Halifax, Nova Scotia.  His father, John Forrest, was the president of Dalhousie University.  According to my mother, Jean Thomas, Lulu had many affairs while married to John Forrest.  This drove him to drink.  She then divorced him because he drank.  I don’t think she ever saw him again, and he died of alcoholism.
After divorcing John Forrest she married Lou Whitney who died and left her a considerable fortune which she promptly blew through.  She then married William O. Bailey who also died.
My grandmother was death on alcohol.  Her third husband Bill Bailey loved to have a nip now and then and he’d keep a bottle out in his woodshed to hide it from her so she wouldn’t find out.  The funny thing is that later in life Lulu discovered Southern Comfort.  And so when she’d come to visit us my parents would buy her a bottle of Southern Comfort so she could drink it.  I think she drank Southern Comfort and Coke.

Lulu Maria Cairns, about 1946.

Finally in 1955 she married Andrew Coutemarsh, a widower whom she had known for many years, perhaps since childhood.  He managed to outlive her by a short period.

Lulu and her fourth husband Andrew Coutermarsh just loved this apartment that they moved into. They said… this was like oh, late May or early June… they said, “it’s so nice to sit in the apartment and we open up the windows and let the breeze flow through here in the evenings and it’s just so comfortable”. My cousin Ray [Forrest] happened to be over there about this time and he looked and the storm windows were still on the place!  So they all went to the window and were imagining this breeze. He says he was wondering why it was always so Goddamn hot when he went over there. I never heard if he told them about the storm windows being on or not.
I happened to be home and I can’t remember if it was the year I was divorced or the year after [abt 1973]. It was one of these things every time I go home my mother would say, “You know you really ought to go see your grandmother. We don’t know how much longer she’s going to be with us, you ought to see her while she’s still here.” So we went down to visit her and I think I had been to one of my class reunions or something so I was pretty hung over the next morning. While my parents were in talking to Lulu and her husband I went out and took a nap in the back seat of the car and I’m snoozing away out there and all of a sudden there’s this horrendous goddamned explosion and it turns out that just up the street from my grandmother’s place, there was a hot water heat explosion in this house!  And this hot water went off in the basement and it lifted the entire house off its foundation and dropped it back down again at an angle. And everything that was in the house got blown out through the windows. There’s furniture out on the lawn, there’s curtains that are torn out there, and the hot water heater went through the first floor and the second floor and finally it was stopped by the roof. And fortunately nobody was home, they were off on a camping trip but they had left the dog behind and he was chained up in the backyard. They said the dog hid underneath their garage for 10 days without coming out. <laughs>
“I remember that explosion. I was the first person there. It’s hard to describe what the inside looked like. The outside of the house looked normal except for glass and curtains blow all over the lawn. What a miracle nobody was home! It looked like you took the room in giant hands and just shook it up.” – John Burrell via email
Lulu never became a US citizen.  All of her husbands were US citizens so apparently she got a little break in that department by marrying an American.

When she got older, she and Andrew lived in a county home, kind of an assisted living thing run by the county. Andrew had this heavy New Hampshire accent. It was so heavy that you would probably have trouble understanding him if he spoke.  I understood him because I was from up there, but anyone else would have been lost.

Lulu and her 4th husband Andrew Coutermarsh, about 1956.

Towards the end they fought a lot and they were finally separated and they didn’t live together in the same room but at the time when they were getting along they were both in the same room. And the high point of Andrew’s week was Sunday morning breakfast. He looked forward to that all week long, and then he gets up on Sunday morning and he starts looking for his false teeth so he can go down and eat breakfast. He can’t find his teeth. All he can find is my grandmother’s teeth that are on the dresser.  So finally he decides, well, he’ll just go down without his teeth and gum his breakfast to death.  Later that morning he came up from breakfast and discovers that my grandmother is wearing his teeth!

Elizabeth “Betty” Forrest Burrell, John Forrest, Mildred Jean Forrest Thomas, and their mother Lulu in 1974.

Photos courtesy of John Burrell, Pamela Burrell Antoni, and Tom Forrest.

Thomas Family Photos (Cont)

John Burrell (of the Forrest Family) has just sent me my first photo of my great-grandmother Lulu Cairns.  Very exciting.  I was surprised how much she looks like my grandmother Mildred Jean Forrest.  She’s holding John in the photo, which was taken about 1941.

So of my eight great-grandparents I’m missing photos of two, and of my sixteen great-great grandparents, I’m missing photos of five currently.

Samuel Robert Cairns

Found some interesting hits tonight on Samuel Robert Cairns (Lulu Cairns’s father), and his other daughter Mildred Cairns.  Apparently they all moved out to California, and Mildred married a man named William A. Goodfellow.  They had a daughter Mildred H. Goodfellow who was born in 1920.  Getting close to living relatives there.  Would love to find some living relatives of the Cairns clan and see if there are stories or photos there.  Samuel’s father Robert Cairns lived in Quebec his whole life, and Robert’s father Samuel came to the US from Ireland sometime before 1833.  Another story much like the McWhirters.  I spent a lot of time on the Cairns clan this week.  I love getting to the point where I have a feeling like I know them.

Forrest Family – Craig Forrest

Made contact today with Craig Forrest from Westminster, Vermont.  He is Lulu Cairns’s grandson via John Prescott Forrest.  The number was under his wife Valerie’s name.  He was pleasant and seemed somewhat interested in the family story.  He gave me a few good leads and told me about two younger brothers (Steven Prescott Forrest, living in Walpole, NH, and Thomas James Forrest, living in Danbury, CT) that I didn’t know about.

He talked a bit about Andrew Coutermarsh (Lulu Cairns’s last husband) and mentioned that Betty Forrest’s son John Burrell (who lives in CT) probably has a good collection of Forrest photos.  I’ll try to get in touch with him next. It was fun talking with Craig because he has the same light Vermont accent that my grandfather Fred Thomas had.

He gave me the proper spelling of “Coutermarsh” and I was able to find a ton of information about Andrew’s family after that.  I had nothing previously.